Lana del Rey is fully embracing the midwestern mom image.

From cool indie sensation to Karen at CVS picking up her xanax prescription.

Oy ! Has she plumped out ? Is she preggo ? is she married ? I loved Born To Die .

When that Lockdown 10 weight gain becomes 25.

Did her eyes always look like that or is she channeling Jocelyn Wildenstein?

Well, she's dating that cop from Oklahoma, so no surprise she's going full-frau.

She looks like she’s days away from announcing her own Food Network show!

Horrible looking nose job.

I love her albums but I find her face hard to look at. I can only assume that terrible plastic surgery is what she was going for.

Lizzie has gone back on the Cheetos.

Maybe she kicked the habit 🤷‍♂️

I get her confused with Costa del Sol.

She looks like Caitlyn Jenner.

Damn, she's huge. She's gotta be around 190 - 200. I mean, she still looks good, but she's way past Christina Hendricks and approaching Lizzo territory!

Lana, Before & After. She's had a nose job, facial work and now has fuller lips.

It's always hilarious when these celebs deny have ANY work done, especially when their old photos inevitably show up with their original faces. I laughed out loud when Priyanka Chopra was on The VIEW and vehemently denied having a nose job, meanwhile, her mom, who has a huge nose, was right in the audience! Prinyaka's nose job can easily be Googled.

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The reddish, auburn hair really suited her best.

Why is this woman popular? She cannot sing.

I love her music. Born to Die is great, and Norman Fucking Rockwell is brilliant.

That hairstyle and those highlights look dated.

She was so beautiful and glamorous before. Now she's starting to look like poor, white trash.

To be fair, her previous look was kind of beautiful glamorous white trash.

Love her in that Gucci campaign with Jared Leto!

What happened with the cop boyfriend?

She's certainly heavier.

Also her surgery is iffy and photographed in natural light, it looks worse.

Not attractive Before or After. She looks like one of those Real Housewives clones. Generic and deformed.

Don't you queens know what a naturally attractive person looks like? Have you ever seen a natural beauty? A woman, or man, whose face and/or body has never been altered?

Lana del Taco has arrived.

summertime sadness indeed

also that hair color really doesn't work for her

Unattractive and talentless.

Back in the heady days when we could still go to concerts (by which I mean February this year), she mysteriously cancelled her entire European tour a few days before it was due to begin, citing an unspecified illness caused her to lose her voice. So perhaps she’s not been well, and her change in appearance is more than just being lockdown-related.

And I have to say that I fucking love her. She’s an unique talent; Norman Fucking Rockwell is a dark and brooding masterpiece and unlike anything else her contemporaries might release.

Lose her voice? WHAT voice?

Is year 2000 frau highlights back in?

[quote]Is year 2000 frau highlights back in?

Well, it was done in Oklahoma, so maybe it's "new" there.

She's tall and when you put on weight, it makes you look like a linebacker.

Did she ask for the "Mommyblog" look

In the pic at R4 she looks less "mom" and more "chunky girl who's popular anyway because her parents are rich."

I don't understand the obsession with that hairstyle. Must every one of these chicks look like they have an etsy business?

I think she just gave birth.

Jesus, there are three of her now!

Why are celebs getting fat during COVID? They still have their chefs and personal trainers. Is it a lack of access to drugs or something?

R26, since these pictures were taken in Tulsa and he's from Tulsa, she's still with him. And lookin' the part of Midwest frau.

She's embraced her fridge. And probably the Domino's delivery guy.

Do people on the coasts really think Oklahoma is Midwestern? It's a Southwestern Plains state.

Meh, it's all flyover, R52. All due respect.

Looks like Drew Barrymore and Alicia Silverstone had a baby or did a Steven Universe fusion dance.

It looks like she's growing her natural hair color back—I believe she is a natural blonde. As far as the weight goes, I noticed several years ago that she had gotten a bit plump, but it was slight and mostly noticeable around her hips/thighs. She looked cute with or without it. When she first came on the scene with "Born to Die," she was very thin, and the weight gain was gradual so I think most people didn't notice because she carried it well. In the last six months though she's gained enough that it's showing significantly in her upper body as well. I know there are people out there who have a theory that she secretly gave birth to a child and has kept it from the public, but I find this hard to believe. I love her music—it's a fine mixture of gorgeous, lush, nostalgic, and depressing. I find her a compelling artist despite what her detractors say.

[quote] I know there are people out there who have a theory that she secretly gave birth to a child and has kept it from the public.

Fucking stupid beyond belief. WTF would she have to keep that a secret? Did she give birth to friggin Moses and protecting him from the Pharaohs? Her fans are psychotic.

Anyway, from pictures I've seen, it looks like she's always mostly always been a bit doughy even when thin. Some people just really hate exercise.

She looks like Barbara Streisand!

I can’t get past her ball peen hammer nose. Was this part of her plastic surgery?

She's so full of herself, every time she gets criticized she posts some long screed on social media that sounds like it was written by a spoiled teenager. Insufferable.

She doesn't even look like herself here. It doesn't surprise me that she wants to go Midwestern conservafrau, what surprises me is that she's actually doing it.

Well she can't be a glamorous 1960's lolita from the hood forever.

[quote]I know there are people out there who have a theory that she secretly gave birth to a child and has kept it from the public,

Lame white girls always copying me.

What happened to that secret project/band with Miles Kane? They recorded a whole album together but never released it. Did they have a falling out?

She needs to pile her hair high on top of her head, get in the kitchen, put on a gingham apron and get cookin’ for her rancher husband’s hungry brood so that they have something to bring to the church pig pickin’.

Considering that her previous looks were carefully contrived, maybe this is her natural state.

I do think she’s special on the inside, though.

I like LDR as a musician and had Video Games on repeat for weeks it was released. But her Lolita-schoolgirl-with-Daddy-issues persona is a bit icky though. Maybe she’s finally graduating high school and embracing womynhood.

All the stoner dumb twinks love her music.

R66 I agree. Se pretty much started shedding the "Lolita lost in the ghetto" shtick after her first album made her famous. Everything she's done since has been much more toned-down and mature, especially her last record. She seems like a very casual person in real life--still very much an artist "on the inside," though, as you say. I enjoy her music immensely and find a lot of it truly heartbreaking.

R14 she looked very much like Anna Paquin, pre-cosmetic adjustments. Either way she’s pretty, there’s no denying, but what’s cool about her is that this has been secondary to her sound and aesthetic. I think she’d still be making moody pouty gloomy music either way - the gimmick and the glam look just helped.

[quote] she's always mostly always been a bit doughy even when thin. Some people just really hate exercise.

True. Sympathise with Lana, as I’m also this way; for a woman naturally bony & big-framed (in that German/Saxon way) and average-tall (5”6) with a low appetite, but fucking hate any exertion beyond a long walk - there is always something more interesting to do than going to the gym or running or doing yoga - and with a slow metabolism. When in a depression phase I sometimes go ham with the sugar & grease (not a drinker, thank fuck) and do not move my body beyond a shuffle to the kitchen if I can help it. At worst I chubbed out á la LDR (175-80lbs at my fattest), but thankfully I was a College fresher at the time and so the gain mostly went to my tits.

These days I’m hovering at 145-50 lbs, and unless you get a close look at me shirtless or in skinny jeans I don’t look that big or fat. I’ve actually been eating less and becoming picky/disinterested in food during lockdown for some reason, though my non-existent exercise regimen has not changed. I should probably dig out a football or my dog’s frisbee for an hour a day, just in case. Or pick up smoking and/or pills.

She's dating that Tulsa detective from Live PD???

Y'all realize what a white trash Queen that makes her?

I hate her music but she has an AESTHETIC. Goddamn.

She is very pretty even with the weight gain. She looks pretty young too.

[quote] Fucking stupid beyond belief. WTF would she have to keep that a secret? Did she give birth to friggin Moses and protecting him from the Pharaohs? Her fans are psychotic.

Rashida Jones, Carey Mulligan. Jessica Biel. Iggy Azaelia and Greta Gerwig all kept their pregnancies from the public. Gerwig was six months pregnant while directing "Little Women" and didn't even tell her cast she was pregnant. It happens.

R73, keeping a pregnancy secret is one thing. Denying the existence of a child who is actually born is another story. The claim was that she was already pregnant and HAD the baby. None of those women hid that a child had actually been born.

The dick must be real good:

Elle King has taken on the mantle of Lana’s old hillbilly-goth cokeslanging Diva schtick.

R73, Gerwig is a big German frau, hard to tell when she isn't pregnant.

And all fat white women look young. Fat don't crack.

From stalking Axl Rose to resembling Axl Rose.

Bill, you in danger Gurl!

She's beautiful, but she looks better thinner. Spare me the "fat-shaming" crap. Most people simply don't look good being heavy. Certain people look better, she does not, especially because it makes her shoulders look wider.

She’s a Cancer Stellium person and an 8th houser/Pluto 12th type, indicating she’s fond of home-cooking and eating by herself. It’s likely she tends towars comfort/emotional-eating, and possibly struggles with secrecy or cycles of starvation-bingeing. She has Venus in Taurus which implies a natural voluptuous curvy body type, but also Saturn in the 1st house (‘rising’) which gives her a sturdy slender visible bone-structure keeps her from morbid obesity or a high-BMI.

Astrology indicates she could boost her health if she did a seafood diet or went on a green food/herbivore plan, and by emotionally comforting herself via other senses such as smell (via perfume, aromatherapy, diffusers & candles) or touch (certain fabrics on clothes or upholstery, a blanket, comfy socks). She might also try to exercise and training via martial arts (for Saturn & Scorpio, arcane discipline), dance (for Leo Moon, close to the Midheaven) or lifting and pulling weights (for Taurus the Bull).

[quote]I get her confused with Costa del Sol.

I get her confused with Marina del Rey.

I'm now getting her confused with Lena del Dunham.

She’s old and now getting fat....

She's old if you think we still live in the 19th Century and we die at like 40.

R84 Her music is very juvenil, though:

It don't matter because it's enough To be young and in love To be young and in love Don't worry, baby Don't worry, baby And it's enough just to make me go crazy, crazy, crazy It's enough just to make me go crazy, crazy, crazy

[quote]She looks pretty young too.

You think so?

Elizabeth Woolridge Grant is 35, the obvious plastic surgery has actually made her look older.

[quote]She’s old and now getting fat....

Well, now she has her answer to her lyrical question, "will you still love me when I'm no longer young and beautiful?".

[quote]I get her confused with Costa del Sol.

[quote]I get her confused with Marina del Rey.

Dolores del Rio, Benicio del Toro, Barbara bel Geddes, Maria del Mar, and Del the Funky Homosapien

I thought Amy Adams in this skit was Lana Del Ray.

R85, I've never heard her music. Just commenting on the ageism. 35 isn't "old" unless you're under 21.

[quote]Why are celebs getting fat during COVID?

Celebs! They're just like us!

She dropped the Old Hollywood-esque style pretty quickly after Born To Die. Maybe her label pushed for it initially to market her as such.

She seems to prefer dressing white trash, despite all her money. Much like Britney.

I know the button is on the outside, but that shirt @R91 still looks inside out

As my mother said regarding Willie Nelson, I'll say about her: "Not much to look at, but produces some really good music"

Lana can be very pretty, but she started messing with her face too much.

She has a beautiful face even with the work, but she needs to drop a few. It's not shaming, it's the truth. The thighs will be making their own music.

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Holy shit, I had no idea Nelly got so fat. Haven't heard about her since her album from like 2006.

Nelly carries it pretty well, though. It hasn't really gone to her face

Her eyes go very deep into her skull. It’s so odd.

People can talk about her weight gain and appearance all they want, but I was convinced that she was a legitimate artist after hearing this. A lot of her songs are thematically similar meditations on wanting certain types of men, but when she's not writing about that, she is much more interesting.

Didn’t she acknowledge that she had serious eating disorder and drug issues in high school? This would seem to indicate a return to old issues.

R102 Lana does great songs but not so great albums. Because all of her music is based on sampling other people's material and playing a persona, her albums always feel a bit disconnected and inauthentic (except maybe the ...AKA Lizzy Grant album).

Just wish someone would reintroduce her to the concept of drums and beats. First couple albums are so good, but then it all became one damn song without a discernible beat.

She hasn't come anywhere near matching the energy of "Gods and Monsters"

that boring slow funeral dirge of a voice of hers......suitable for jumpin off a roof top

Wow she got lucky with that hot cop bf of hers....he so fine.

R109 that's kind of the point, though. She writes downbeat, atmospheric, sad music that suits her voice. I think a lot of her music is truly beautiful—sad, but that doesn't mean it isn't pretty. She was never going to be a hit for the masses, but she has managed to accrue a large cult following and has stacked her bills nicely.

Maybe she is shooting for that lucrative Enormé spokeswoman gig, since Jenna Maroney lost weight.

Enormé, make him chase the chunk.

R103 I don't know about drugs, but she's said she had a bad drinking problem when she was a teenager, hence why she was sent to one of the most expensive boarding schools in the country (she claims her uncle got her financial aid, but I doubt she needed it--her dad got loaded in domain investing in the '90s). One of my only pet peeves with her is that she refuses to admit that she came from a well-off family, and that her living in a trailer park while she was attending college was by her own choice (she went to Fordham by the way, which is an expensive school--I know because I also went there and footed the bill).

Gaaawwwwd, that same old nasal slooowwww sad sound that farts from her fart face

I think she's talented and has appeal, but she's overrated.

Her face is beautiful but is on the cusp of looking mutilated by cosmetic alterations.

Her songwriting is more interesting than Taylor Swift's and Lady Gaga's and a million times more interesting than Adele's sing-by-numbers generic lyrics...I can't think of a lot of youngish singer-songwriters (who write their own music) to compare her with. And it seems to be evolving a bit, which is good, because you can only sustain the self-destructive gothy thing for so long, and Billie Eilish has taken up residence in that slot, which really does belong to adolescents like Billie and not 35 year-olds like Lana.

Her singing is good enough and suited to the music she writes. She's not a belter, and God knows we don't need another American Idol-style belter in pop music. She has a pretty head voice but seems to prefer her droning lower register and whisper-singing.

Normally, I would say that a person can't be held responsible for being overrated because it's other people who rate them, but Lana lost a lot of the esteem I had for her when she went after Ann Powers for giving her a GREAT-but-not-good-enough-for-Lana review. That made her seem like a spoiled, egomaniacal brat, and that's a really gross look on a 35 year-old, no matter how pretty.

[quote]Her songwriting is more interesting than Taylor Swift's and Lady Gaga's and a million times more interesting than Adele's sing-by-numbers generic lyrics...I can't think of a lot of youngish singer-songwriters (who write their own music) to compare her with.

This precisely. Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga, Ariana Grande—pretty much all vapid and dull songwriting. Adele's music is quite basic but I do think her voice is gorgeous and that she's singing from the heart, so she gets a pass from me. The reality is that I can't stand 99% of the women in pop music today, but Lana is a rare exception. She is in her own league—there's really nobody else like her. A lot of her songs are also admittedly about relationships and men, but at least they demonstrate that she has an imagination—there is always something unusual and confounding about them, lyrically and sonically. Taylor Swift's music makes me want to jump off of a roof, not Lana's.

R116 It never occurred to me that Ariana Grande writes her own music. Does she? I honestly have never listened to her because her mumble-singing and vowel-mangling is a total turnoff to me, even though her voice sounds pretty.

Was I wrong to assume that Ariana Grande is a pop-production princess whose songs are written by committees of of-the-moment songwriters? I didn’t include Beyoncé, for example, in my post at R115 because of persistent rumors that she takes personal writing credit for her collaborators’ work. (I just looked up Lemonade, and the second track is credited to all these people: Beyoncé, Thomas Wesley Pentz, Ezra Koenig, Emile Haynie, Joshua Tillman, Uzoechi Emenike, Sean Rhoden, Doc Pomus, Mort Schuman, DeAndre Way, Antonio Randolph, Kelvin McConnell, Brian Chase, Karen Orzolek, Nick Zinner—15 writers!!!! for one song!!!

Lana Del Rey at least is the creative genesis of her lyrics, as are Gaga (who does bring in a lot of collaborators, but you can tell by her lyrics and somg structures over time that she is the primary writer) and Swift, so they do all stand apart from and above other pop stars like Beyoncé. I just looked up Ariana Grande on Wikipedia and her “Thank U, Next” album includes songs with up to 10 writers.

R117 Ariana might have been a bad example--you're right, she's more like a Beyonce in that she's a pretty voice/face but not really an artist. I simply named her because she is among the most "relevant" women in pop music at the moment.

My favorite artists by miles are (primarily) Tori Amos and Kate Bush and (also) Joni Mitchell, Fiona Apple, Laura Nyro and Regina Spektor. I obviously have a ‘type,’ yes—but besides the singer-songwriter-pianist genre, all of these women compose and write their own music entirely solo. They are auteur artists driven by personal visions rather than producers of products to be sold.

As an artist, I would put both Lana Del Rey and (yes) Taylor Swift into their bracket. I just don’t relate nearly as much to their work and find it less interesting overall than that of the women above. Lana’s interest and vision seems limited to her sad-vampy-daddy-fetishizer theme so far—I really hope she will outgrow it and expand her worldview—and while I honestly respect Taylor As a creative artist, it’s time for her to grow up.

Taylor is showing glimmers of thinking and expressing thoughts beyond romance, and Lana gives me a vibe she thinks beyond her limited storytelling range and I wish she would tell other sorts of stories. But even trapped within their respective boxes, both of these women are real creative talents and I have a lot of respect for their self-created music even if it’s not necessarily that interesting to me. They definitely are in a whole other pop bracket than the girls and boys who sing other people’s words.

Maybe this is a Joaquin Phoenix-like stunt she’s pulling on us?

Maybe the camo Route 66 cap and jean cutoffs are ironic and I’m just not cool enough to get it anymore?

I certainly miss the Valley of the Dolls-ish early Lana image. It suited her music, which hasn’t really evolved in 8 years, as much as I do enjoy it.

She is one lip implant away from becoming Amanda Lepore.

I love how fatties wear long hair that’s parted in the middle like Lana does in the photo. As if covering up fat face with hair will automatically fool people into thinking they’re not fat. I believe the plus-size Dutch princess also wears her hair this way. Who are they fooling?

Take a lesson, Lana. Topknots are slimming.

All the fatties part their hair down the middle. LOOKING AT YOU, LANA. We slim beauties know how to rock a Bumpit.

Everyday’s a good hair day for a skinny, happy girl like me!

The guy in (r11)'s video is gorgeous, despite the tattoos.

I write this all the time. Is Norman Fucking Rockwell about James Franco and what weird thing happened between them? He fetishized her persona, she fell for him, he used and discarded her, she's now fat and depressed? And he's ruined...

And I'm bored.

If she wrote an album about James Franco, then she’s far sadder of a person than her music even suggests.

R130 she didn't write an album about him, he wrote a fucking book about her, which I believe was tentatively titled "Real Conversations with Lana Del Rey." She admitted last year that, after reading it, she disputed a bunch of the things he had written and said he fabricated a lot of these "conversations," and he ended up never releasing the book. It was a creepy thing for him to do, but not surprising given how sleazy he is.

If James Franco ever shoots up a basement church or a movie theater, I will not be surprised. He is wired wrong.

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That's not her, it looks like the same lady that's in this photo on her IG, someone named Jenny.

R136 huh? That is quite literally Lana

She's 35 and is white and probably has those fat genes. She probably smokes and drinks a lot too. She doesn't look terrible either. She was never a beauty.

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